tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092279688859602255.post7005566282530476447..comments2023-10-05T03:05:34.846-07:00Comments on From atop the Branches of the Giving Tree...: "Doctors speak out about 'pronapping' addiction to propofol/divprivan on the job and at home" --MY TAKEgatorgirl277http://www.blogger.com/profile/01700536873177629282noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092279688859602255.post-31705705119505905272010-10-25T14:43:15.542-07:002010-10-25T14:43:15.542-07:00Hi again Anon,
"Do you know if it's p...Hi again Anon, <br /> "Do you know if it's possible for people to become dependent on it?"<br /> In my opinion, no. Could that be argued? Yes. There are certainly no physical addiction properties for this drug. That is critical for the development of addiction. No tolerance, no withdrawals, no addiction. People are placed on this drug for weeks sometimes with no addiction development. However, psychological addiction is something that could be debated, but I believe only subtherapeutic levels have been debated. I do not buy into psychological addiction, certainly not pertaining to Michael. Anything can be psychologically addictive. I read an article where the "experts" deemed that propofol must be addictive because their test subjects, which were previous drug abusers, said they "liked it". This analysis was argued by other experts but still, it isn't like Murray could call up one of these doctors as a witness. Hopefully the prosecution would know that this study was not carried out well at all and proves nothing. Addiction should not be on trial--Murray's actions should be placed on trial. I used to think that this would be called "off-label' use but I think the more accurate term is "non-therapeutic use". Off-label usually implies the drug does work for the indication, it is just not in print because it costs millions of dollars to get a drug approved for a use. But, in this case, propofol has no use for insomnia, or sleep. I would think that could constitute misbranding. I am not sure, though. It should. Thanks again for your comments!gatorgirl277https://www.blogger.com/profile/01700536873177629282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092279688859602255.post-38843386350211316462010-10-05T15:39:36.384-07:002010-10-05T15:39:36.384-07:00Hi Nikki
Thanks for your reply about the articles...Hi Nikki<br /><br />Thanks for your reply about the articles. I just read your recent article about propofol. Bravo! Your right from a few articles I have found as well it seems Propofol doesn't really have addicting characteristics. Do you know if it's possible for people to become dependent on it? Anyway, I think what is more the point is that it has been used recklessly by some (like Murray for his patient) for an off label use, and because of those reckless actions people (like Michael) have died. Thanks again for your blog!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092279688859602255.post-17280768461626540572010-10-04T22:28:24.800-07:002010-10-04T22:28:24.800-07:00Hi Anon!
Thanks for commenting about how nursing ...Hi Anon!<br /><br />Thanks for commenting about how nursing is in the real world. I am still just floored by this article. It was such a slap to so many hard working nurses!<br /><br />I have gotten many articles on propofol, both dealing with addiction and death, and I could recommend to you certain titles to read. I personally have focused more on death from propofol and not so much (yet) on addiction though the subject is touched on in the articles that review death. Without using stats, I will say on behalf of many nurses and doctor I know that have used it, that plain and simple it is not addictive. Honestly, those who say they are addicted, it reminds me of those people who have an "addiction" to food. Food itself is not an addictive substance but can be a problem for some people. It has nothing to do with the substance.gatorgirl277https://www.blogger.com/profile/01700536873177629282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092279688859602255.post-857479589794475322010-09-29T17:16:16.594-07:002010-09-29T17:16:16.594-07:00Awesome of you to expose the inaccuracies in this ...Awesome of you to expose the inaccuracies in this article. I am a nursing student right now and I've done a few clinical rotations at the hospital. I didn't get to be with my nurse preceptors much because they were so busy. Your right most of them didn't take breaks and barely took lunch. The patient loads that they had were dangerouly high and it's even worse during the overnight shift according to some nursing assistants that I know. <br /><br />I've been researching propofol indepentantly to find articles on anesthesiologist's that are addicted to propofol. I don't know if there is any credibilty to that notion though, or if it's just another rumor that circulates among medical professionals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092279688859602255.post-90231535304410336402010-09-19T16:35:32.237-07:002010-09-19T16:35:32.237-07:00It is directed to the "expert" who wrote...It is directed to the "expert" who wrote it. If someone is getting PAID and being touted as credible then they need to get that shit right! Nothing ticks me off more than to see stuff like this that misleads the innocent! Goes to show that ANYONE and ANYTHING can twist the truth!gatorgirl277https://www.blogger.com/profile/01700536873177629282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092279688859602255.post-71037851947871598072010-09-19T16:15:41.894-07:002010-09-19T16:15:41.894-07:00Ooooh, nice response - who was it directed at? RO...Ooooh, nice response - who was it directed at? ROFLMHO at the typo, it happens to everybody at some point! <br /><br />JoyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3092279688859602255.post-52593598162317418632010-09-19T16:06:08.765-07:002010-09-19T16:06:08.765-07:00OMG! I just noticed "Diprivan" is missp...OMG! I just noticed "Diprivan" is misspelled in the heading! Sigh...gatorgirl277https://www.blogger.com/profile/01700536873177629282noreply@blogger.com